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Peter Panageas (00:07):
If you’re searching for well timed, related conversations about an important matters in well being protection, you’ve come to the appropriate pod. This is IBX: The Cover Story from Independence Blue Cross hosted by me, Peter Panageas. So by day, I oversee all of our nationwide business enterprise right here at IBX. I’m additionally a caregiver and a affected person. We all the time say that healthcare is private, and it’s. So my visitors and I are exploring how the massive image and the massive points have an effect on our on a regular basis lives and the wellbeing of these all of us care about. Together, we’ve bought this coated. So let’s get began.
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Hi, everyone. This is Peter Panageas, and welcome to episode 15 of IBX: The Cover Story. For this month’s episode, you’re about to listen to an unbelievable and wonderful story a couple of courageous girl in Karen Silverio, who’s a private pal of me and my spouse. Karen’s husband Joe is a lifelong pal of mine. For our viewers, Karen is wholesome, energetic, eats proper, workouts, doesn’t smoke, and the story you’re about to listen to of how she overcame her cardiac arrest is a tremendous one. You’re going to listen to about how an up-and-coming medical scholar by the identify of Krzysztof Zembrzuski labored with a police officer to assist administer CPR on Karen. And you’re additionally going to listen to from Karen’s ongoing heart specialist, Dr. Reginald Ho of Thomas Jefferson University Hospital.
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Every 40 seconds, somebody within the United States has a coronary heart assault, and over 400,000 Americans die from cardiac arrest annually. If carried out instantly, CPR can double or triple the possibility of survival. But sadly, solely about 40% of people that’ve gone into cardiac arrest have quick assist. So Karen, Krzysztof and Dr. Ho, on behalf of Independence, thanks all a lot for being with us at this time.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (01:57):
Thank you for having us.
Karen Silverio (01:58):
Good to be right here.
Dr. Reginald Ho (01:59):
Thank you a lot. Glad to be right here.
Peter Panageas (02:00):
Excellent, glorious. So Karen, this can be a actual private factor for me. Take us via the day that you just went into cardiac arrest from your personal perspective.
Karen Silverio (02:10):
I’ll. So it was a standard morning again in January of this 12 months. I bought up. I took my daughter Gianna to high school. I drove her to highschool that morning, got here house. I used to be preparing for work. I left the home round 7:45 within the morning, mentioned goodbye to my husband Joe, typical cease at Wawa for a cup of espresso. And I used to be on my technique to work at Rowan Medical Osteopathic Medicine Center, the place I’m a standardized affected person there. So I used to be pretending that day that I had OB-GYN encounters.
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So I ended up pulling into the parking zone early. I used to be texting backwards and forwards with my girlfriend, Michelle, as a result of she was having nostril surgical procedure that morning so I wished to want her properly. And then I should have gotten out of the automotive, and that’s once I went over and simply collapsed, I assume. I actually don’t bear in mind an entire lot aside from what individuals have instructed me since that episode. And then I met my savior, Krzysztof.
Peter Panageas (03:23):
Krzysztof, as we have been making ready for this podcast, you gave us lots of perception not solely from a private perspective, but in addition in your journey as an expert perspective. And at this level in your journey, give us your perspective. As the one who saved Karen’s life, take us via the day of the occasions that occurred.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (03:41):
Yeah, positive. So it was simply one other day. I used to be heading over to high school and I used to be pulling into the parking zone. And as I used to be going via the parking zone and driving, I see out of the nook of my eye that there’s a person on the bottom. And there’s a police officer attending, and it regarded like they could’ve been giving CPR, but it surely regarded like one thing simply occurred.
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So straight away, I simply pulled in my automobile. Being that I’m a medical scholar now, I’ve had some coaching with these conditions and I made a decision to become involved and simply ask straight away if anybody wants assist. But in these eventualities, it’s totally different once you’re in a hospital versus once you’re out in a parking zone. I spotted anybody wants assist on this scenario. So straight away, I simply requested how lengthy Karen was on the bottom for. And it appeared a couple of minute or two, and I simply swapped out the officer and simply did compressions. Yeah, there’s lots happening within the scenario, however all I do know is that there’s a girl right here and she or he doesn’t have a pulse. So I’m simply going to do what I can and provides as many compressions as I can. And I assume every 30 seconds, you don’t know what’s going to occur.
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During this time, the police officer was capable of seize the defibrillator, and we labored as a workforce to principally assist resuscitate Karen. It was the primary time I’ve ever been in a scenario in a parking zone, and I assume there’s lots of ideas going via my head. Karen was having agonal breaths, so it looks like at instances we have been capable of… It appeared like all the things was going properly, however the actuality was it wasn’t. But the one factor I might inform you from my perspective, I simply saved doing compressions. I simply saved going and going and hoping that paramedics would arrive quickly. But it was positively a scary scene. I couldn’t inform you how a lot time glided by. It appeared like over 10 minutes from the time Karen initially collapsed. So yeah, it was a scary scene and it didn’t look like all the things was going to end up for one of the best.
Peter Panageas (05:33):
Krzysztof, you administered for about over 10 minutes.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (05:36):
So I don’t… Not 10 for me. This can be together with by the point I believe paramedics simply arrived. From my finish level, it was a lot happening. And anybody that’s been in a scenario like this is aware of that point is warped. I should have finished myself 5, six rounds. Stop, examine, respiration, do what you possibly can. I simply tried to open up her airway and see… And the agonal breaths got here on at a coincidental time, however I couldn’t inform you precisely… But by the point paramedics got here, it was some time. All I do know is I used to be actually late to my lessons and there should have been… Some time positively glided by.
Peter Panageas (06:17):
Krzysztof, let me ask you this. Tell our viewers the place are you in your journey in med faculty.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (06:23):
So at present, I’m third 12 months medical scholar at Rowan School of Osteopathic Medicine, now often known as Virtua Health College. But I assume I’m a fourth 12 months now as of final Friday.
Peter Panageas (06:35):
Congrats.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (06:36):
Thank you. Yeah, so proper now I’ve completed up my core rotations and I shall be beginning my board examinations these subsequent few months and my audition rotations, and I’ll be making use of for residency. So I’m in direction of the top, after which the following step is residency. So it’s a protracted journey, completely, however I’m glad to virtually be finished with the varsity part.
Karen Silverio (06:59):
Yay.
Peter Panageas (06:59):
Let me shift over to Dr. Ho. Doctor, to start with, I’d like to get your perspective on what Krzysztof did to save lots of Karen’s life. And additionally, are you able to share with our viewers how does this occur to someone like Karen? I imply, look. I personally know Karen, proper? As we have been prepping, Karen is finest buddies with my spouse. Her husband and I are pricey, pricey buddies, we’ve grown up collectively. I do know Karen on a private stage. She eats properly. She workouts. She does yoga. She’s a tremendous, wonderful religious particular person stuffed with constructive power and love, and this occurs. So like to get your perspective of how does this occur? How does this set off on someone like Karen?
Dr. Reginald Ho (07:41):
The subject of sudden cardiac demise is a serious downside. As , within the United States, 400,000 individuals annually die from sudden demise. And typically, now we have an thought of who’re in danger for it. The individuals who have coronary heart issues, poor we name LV operate. Other individuals, their coronary heart operate could also be regular. And then there are sufferers who’re in between who’ve coronary heart issues the place we don’t know whether or not or not how a lot in danger they’re. And so attempting to threat stratify totally different people with totally different coronary heart issues might be very difficult. And that’s our purpose in cardiology, is to attempt to determine who’re going to be in danger, who ought to get a defibrillator, who shouldn’t get a defibrillator. These are the challenges that now we have that we face every day.
Peter Panageas (08:29):
So Dr. Ho, if I got here to see you, what can be a symptom that I might have that you’d diagnose whether or not I ought to have a defibrillate or not? Can you give our viewers an perception as to what can be a symptom and/or what can be a analysis out of your lens?
Dr. Reginald Ho (08:46):
Absolutely. So among the issues that might herald sudden cardiac demise is that if somebody has what we name a syncopal episode. So they move out transiently after which regain spontaneous consciousness. So syncope might be a marker or a pink flag that one thing imminent is about to occur. But every other cardiovascular signs which might be regarding, which might be uncommon for sufferers, so if they’ve chest ache, shortness of breath, issues which might be out of the peculiar ought to all the time be evaluated within the context they endure analysis to see what the reason for their signs are and what must be finished about it.
Peter Panageas (09:26):
Love to additionally get your perspective on this younger man, who’s a miracle right here for Karen. I’d like to get your perspective, as an up-and-coming doctor, what Krzysztof did and the way he reacted. Just like to get your perspective as someone who’s been within the subject for a very long time. And once you hear this story and the way he simply jumped into motion, like to get your perspective on what Krzysztof did.
Dr. Reginald Ho (09:46):
Absolutely. I believe that Krzysztof, you probably did a completely marvelous, great job. You saved Karen’s life. There’s lots of people on the market who might have simply moved on. They noticed that the police was there and all the things was taken care of, however you took the initiative to go and assist out.
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And as you talked about, drugs is a workforce effort, and one policeman wouldn’t be capable to do it alone. And by you substituting and doing CPR for him allowed him to get secondary assist, name EMS, get the AED which is significant for her. And I simply commend you for not solely your means to do CPR, however your initiative to go and assist somebody who’s in want.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (10:27):
Thank you, Dr. Ho. That means lots.
Peter Panageas (10:29):
So Karen, look. I bear in mind getting the decision from Joe the night time it occurred. And all of us came to visit to the hospital, and we have been collectively all praying for you. Give us your perspective. How has this incident modified your life and the lifetime of your family members? I imply, I do know it from a private perspective, however I’d like to have the viewers hear your story there.
Karen Silverio (10:50):
Oh, my story, as a result of I don’t bear in mind something, I really feel dangerous for everyone that needed to be there and to see me that means. I imply, I used to be in a coma for a day and a half. And my brother got here up from Georgia. And when he arrived on the hospital, he mentioned they didn’t know if I used to be mind lifeless or what I used to be. And my brother, Dennis, ended up saying to me, “Oh, I like your white nail polish,” and I occurred to have a look at it. So they knew that one thing was happening in a proper route. You simply actually cherish daily. And I believe it affected everyone that was concerned with the entire scenario. But you do, and also you simply have a look at individuals now. Just be form. But it positively affected everyone.
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And for all of my household and buddies, it’s all the time a giant social gathering after we get collectively. I do know on the ICU, I heard, and once more I don’t know this, however I heard that the nurses mentioned how loud my household was within the ICU [inaudible 00:11:54]. I believe it was Pete that did that.
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But now, everyone needs to do coaching for CPR. So they mentioned to me, the organizer, “Karen, get a party together. Let’s bring somebody in, and we’ll all learn how to CPR. Because obviously, if Krzysztof can save your life, we can also save it for somebody else.” So it’s modified it. It has. But on some avenues for myself, on some ranges I haven’t actually been affected by it as a result of I don’t actually know.
Peter Panageas (12:26):
Well, the impression you’re making in ensuring that all of us are going to be CPR licensed is one thing that I believe did come out from a really constructive perspective. And Krzysztof and Dr. Ho, I’d like to get each of your views. Talk to our listeners about your respective CPR coaching that you just’ve obtained, what it’s meant to you. I imply clearly, Krzysztof, it’s a game-changer for you in your journey, proper, and the way you’ve utilized what you’ve realized to this. And like to get your perspective, Dr. Ho, your perspective on CPR coaching and what avenues which might be on the market for possibly simply most of the people to undergo. So possibly Krzysztof, I’ll begin with you.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (13:02):
Oh yeah, completely. So my coaching, I bought the essential life BLS coaching. I did this with my faculty. From my standpoint, once you get this coaching, you by no means actually assume you’re going to make use of it, actually. It looks like it’s one thing that’s simply… You do it for certification, and possibly in the future one thing will occur. And like Dr. Ho talked about, 400,000 individuals skilled sudden cardiac demise. So I assume the older you get, the extra issues occur in life, and these conditions truly occur.
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What it did for me, I believe as a scholar, I imply I’m primarily simply taking assessments and I’m learning. I’m within the hospital as properly, however this was, I assume, a possibility to essentially become involved and actually assist somebody. This journey is so lengthy. You have to attend some time earlier than you may actually make an impression on somebody. And for me and my journey, it reinstilled all the things I stand for and why I do that, why I signed up for this. It’s wanting to assist others. To be capable to serve somebody in conditions the place you possibly can really feel hopeless, I believe that’s all the things. That’s the reward that retains on giving.
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You need to assist others, and it’s actually that important time once you don’t know what to do. You might simply fall again on the coaching that you’ve got. You don’t have time to assume, and you may simply merely administer CPR. It actually is simply give compressions. That’s actually all you are able to do. And then hopefully, you get extra assist after 10 minutes or so, no matter it’s, ambulance comes. But yeah, it actually was, I believe, a monumental time in my life, and it helped me bear in mind all the things that I’m doing and why I’m doing it. And I believe it’s going to assist me resolve what monitor I am going into in drugs, and hope I might be concerned in different circumstances the place timing and important decision-making is all the things.
Peter Panageas (14:46):
Thank you, Krzysztof. How about you, Dr. Ho?
Dr. Reginald Ho (14:48):
Yes, I’d prefer to not solely point out the significance of CPR, but in addition make a plug in for figuring out the best way to use and the place to seek out an AED. Those are extremely necessary. So CPR is one a part of resuscitation. Rapid defibrillation can be one other very important a part of defibrillation and saving life. And each public venue ought to have an AED, soccer fields, excessive colleges, center colleges, and figuring out the place to seek out it… And the directions are typically pretty easy, however within the chaos, within the warmth of the second it may be troublesome for some individuals. But attempting to get an understanding of AED, the best way to discover it, the best way to apply it’s extremely necessary.
Peter Panageas (15:32):
In speaking to Karen, Dr. Ho, I requested her, I mentioned, “What is the diagnosis? What was an official name of what happened to you?” And she mentioned, ” Mitral annular disjunction.” Did I say that accurately, Dr. Ho?
Dr. Reginald Ho (15:44):
Yeah, mitral annular disjunction. Yes.
Peter Panageas (15:47):
Can you inform our viewers a little bit bit about what that’s? And equally, are you able to additionally share with us among the therapies that you’re doing for Karen?
Dr. Reginald Ho (15:57):
Sure. So mitral annular disjunction is a comparatively new analysis. It’s throughout the context of what we name malignant mitral valve prolapse syndrome, which is a spectrum that may vary from someone having extreme leakiness of the mitral valve to sudden demise. And so mitral annular dysfunction is without doubt one of the high-risk options of this syndrome that might be related, or has been related to, ventricular fibrillation. And sudden demise is a altered spatial alignment between the mitral valve and the summit of the left ventricular posterior wall, which you see on Echo and cardiac MRI. And that’s what we discovered on her cardiac MRI.
Peter Panageas (16:38):
So it’s one thing that might be, if one in all our listeners went in and noticed the heart specialist, that might be one thing that might be picked up on a scan or on an ultrasound.
Dr. Reginald Ho (16:47):
Yes. So echo, or if there’s a purpose for getting a CMR MRI, it might be picked up on MRI. The subject is threat stratification. If somebody noticed it however had no signs, threat stratifying that affected person is necessary as a result of placing a defibrillator in everybody, it might not be one of the best factor . There are dangers concerned. And so we need to determine who’s in danger, the place a defibrillator can be necessary, and we’d like extra research for that.
Peter Panageas (17:12):
And Karen, I do know that Dr. Ho is your attending doctor proper now. Can you discuss? And possibly Dr. Ho, you possibly can share with our viewers a little bit bit concerning the journey that you just and Karen have been on. But Karen, would you share with our viewers once you noticed Dr. Ho at Jefferson, what was the dialog and what in the end was the therapy?
Karen Silverio (17:29):
So they went via totally different therapies or totally different looking for why I went down. And finally, they did an MRI of the guts they usually discovered this mitral annular disjunction. So the therapy was is to place a defibrillator in me. Do I’ve a pacemaker too?
Dr. Reginald Ho (17:49):
Yeah, you do have a transvenous gadget. Yeah.
Karen Silverio (17:52):
And Joe and I did meet with Dr. Ho on March eighth as a observe up, and all the things went properly. Everything actually did went properly. He did extra testing to verify. And I even have one thing at my home the place if any… It all the time sends readings to Jefferson to guarantee that the defibrillator is working. And additionally, if I do have any type of coronary heart arrhythmia or something like that, that it’s going to point out up on this screening that goes to the radiology division over at Jeff, which may be very, very cool, all this know-how that they’ve.
Peter Panageas (18:31):
Dr. Ho, in the event you might share with our viewers what the defibrillator does for Karen, proper, possibly stroll via that. What does it do for her to forestall this from ever occurring once more?
Dr. Reginald Ho (18:42):
Absolutely. So the defibrillator senses {the electrical} alerts of the guts. And so if it goes right into a fast malignant quick coronary heart rhythm, it’ll cost up its capacitors after which ship a shock to revive sinus rhythm, very similar to the automated exterior defibrillator did that the police had placed on Karen. But that’s an exterior utility. This is all inside, all automated, so it mechanically do it with out the necessity for anybody to assist her.
Peter Panageas (19:09):
We talked earlier about signs. So if I needed to ask you, what conversations ought to a affected person have with their physician to evaluate their threat for one thing like this?
Dr. Reginald Ho (19:20):
Yeah. So it could be signs whether or not, as we had talked about, whether or not they move out, syncope, chest ache, shortness of breath. Other issues within the historical past which might be necessary is a household historical past of younger people who find themselves dying. Is there a genetic predisposition to dying instantly? And after all, structurally what’s happening with the guts? Do they’ve blockages within the blood vessels? Is their coronary heart muscle weak? So the affected person would supply some signs as to what’s happening. The doctor would do an analysis to see what sort of threat and what the reason for the signs are.
Peter Panageas (19:53):
After this process, can one get again to considerably of a standard life?
Dr. Reginald Ho (19:57):
Yes. So my job is to make it that Karen can exit and luxuriate in life, spend time with household, go to Delray, go to Florida, do what she needs to do. My job is to fret about her defibrillator, and that’s the rationale why now we have that distant monitor so I can see what’s happening. So if I see something irregular, something regarding, any pink flags, then I might name her and let her know what’s happening, whether or not she must see me or so. So I’ll be following Karen, however I need her to go and luxuriate in life.
Peter Panageas (20:26):
Well look, Krzysztof and Dr. Ho, I’ll inform you each this. And once more, this can be a testomony to not solely the 2 of you, however actually to Karen and her spirit. When I look again on this chronology of once I bought the decision from her husband Joe and my pricey, pricey pal, I used to be truly on my technique to see a basketball recreation, the Philadelphia 76ers play. And Joe referred to as me and shared with me within the information, and clearly I instantly ran to the hospital and was there with my spouse and definitely Karen’s household and Joe’s household and all collectively praying. From that second to the purpose of inside 60 days of that, submit 60 days, due to the work that you just two did and definitely due to Karen’s spirit, Karen I believe you have been snowboarding, is that proper? Right?
Karen Silverio (21:10):
I went snowboarding twice.
Peter Panageas (21:12):
Yeah, twice. Go forward. Tell our viewers what you’ve finished.
Karen Silverio (21:17):
I went snowboarding twice. We went to Delray, Florida. We have been jet snowboarding, parasailing. We rented a ship, paddle boarding. But it was actually humorous as a result of once I went to see Dr. Ho on March eighth, I used to be like… He was going via all the things and he’s like, “You can’t golf until May 1st.” I’m pondering to myself in my head, “How do you even know I’m a golfer?” Somehow he knew, and I used to be like, “May 1st? Okay. Well, according to April 25th now, so it’s only around the corner.” But I’ve been capable of do all the things. And by the gracious of God, actually, the nice Lord has not ended me with any mind harm, what have you ever. So I do imagine in… I maintain going. Thank you, Dr. Ho and Krzysztof, for that.
Peter Panageas (22:11):
Look, I need to shift this to a little bit bit extra of a private journey as a result of I believe it’s a fairly cool journey each for Krzysztof and Dr. Ho. And if we might indulge our viewers right here, Krzysztof, you and I, after we have been speaking and preparing for this podcast, I requested you a little bit bit about your loved ones. And you come from a household that heals. And inform us a little bit bit about your loved ones, Krzysztof.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (22:31):
Yeah, positive. Medicine positively runs in my household. My father’s a doctor. My older sister is a doctor resident. And I’ve two half-brothers, however they’re each physicians as properly. I assume rising up, you actually see the sacrifice and dedication and the selflessness, particularly with what I noticed throughout COVID, of what physicians actually do. I assume it actually teaches you that this career’s not about, let’s say, status or no matter, but it surely actually is concerning the means to serve others. So I believe rising up, that all the time had a impression of me. I noticed the success it might deliver and the aim it might offer you in life.
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I used to be rising up and I used to be concerned. I used to be a aggressive freestyle skier. I used to be in high-adrenaline sports activities. I’m additionally a licensed solo sky diver. So I’ve all the time been in circumstances which might be like excessive adrenaline. So I assume to attach the 2, I noticed that in these sports activities, there’s lots of incidents that don’t go properly. People get accidents. People typically have deadly accidents. And after having witnessed some, I all the time wished to understand how I might assist, how I might be of service. I believe that was all the time what saved me going. I wished to be taught extra.
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So as I grew up, went to highschool, faculty, I made a decision I wished to take this path as properly. And I used to be additionally touched with, I assume, experiences in my life that drew me extra in direction of the sector of drugs. So I assume it’s not like one factor that makes you go into this subject, however there’s an entire collection of occasions. It’s a journey that make you resolve to go down this route. And I assume in the event you compile all the things collectively, that’s how I ended up right here.
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And then right here’s one other monumental incident I had in my life that retains inspiring me to pursue and to assist others and to be of use in instances the place you want you may assist somebody. Hopefully, I can. I assume that’s the true purpose right here. And yeah, it’s simply, I assume, a journey. I realized lots from my household and my life experiences, and now we’re right here.
Peter Panageas (24:36):
That’s unbelievable, Krzysztof. And whereas I actually don’t know your loved ones, one factor’s for sure. I do know they’re all very, very pleased with you for not solely who you might be, however actually what you probably did to save lots of Karen. And you having that surrounding has blessed us all. And not solely at this time, however in actually going into the longer term on the way you’re going to have the ability to serve individuals. It’s a tremendous, wonderful reward and unbelievable.
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Dr. Ho, how about you? Tell us a little bit bit about your story. I’d love to listen to your story.
Dr. Reginald Ho (25:05):
My story. Grew up in Hawaii, went to high school on the University of Notre Dame, went to medical faculty at University of Pennsylvania. Did my residency there. Did some cardiology fellowship coaching on the University of California San Francisco and got here again to [inaudible 00:25:21] for extra coaching. And then for the final 23 years, I’ve been at Jefferson and loved my time there taking good care of great individuals identical to Karen.
Karen Silverio (25:27):
[inaudible 00:25:28].
Peter Panageas (25:29):
Amazing. Dr. Ho, your journey is actually an unbelievable one as properly. And for our listeners, and Dr. Ho is being considerably modest, however in the event you’re acquainted with Notre Dame’s 1988 undefeated season, Dr. Ho was the surprising kicker who helped lead the workforce to win the faculty soccer nationwide championship that individual season. There’s additionally a 30 for 30 documentary that includes Dr. Ho’s story, which we’re going to submit on our present notes. So take a couple of minutes to look at it. It is a tremendous story, and it’s a testomony, Dr. Ho, to your dedication to excellence and definitely your ardour round being part of a workforce sport. And I believe you mentioned it earlier, proper?
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And Krzysztof, the story that you just shared with you and the officer saying, “I got this. You go over there and take care of that, and let’s together help somebody,” I believe is a testomony to what it’s to be working in a workforce surroundings to save lots of one’s life. And actually, I believe among the success that you just’ve had up to now, Krzysztof, in all of the issues that you just’ve finished main up thus far, and definitely Dr. Ho that you just’ve had in your previous main up thus far and been serving the neighborhood for the previous 20 years, is a good testomony to not solely your households, however actually your private being as properly. Amazing.
Dr. Reginald Ho (26:41):
Thank you.
Peter Panageas (26:42):
So Krzysztof, Dr. Ho and Karen, I can’t thanks all sufficient for this unbelievable dialogue at this time. It touches on so many parts from a private perspective to an expert perspective, to a religious perspective, and what you’ve all finished collectively to save lots of the lifetime of a stupendous, stunning particular person. Sorry. As I do with all of our visitors, I ask if there’s anybody or two issues that you just’d prefer to share with our viewers, what would it not be? Krzysztof, I’m going to begin with you.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (27:16):
Yeah, positive. I assume the most important factor I might say is simply don’t be scared. Be courageous. Whether it’s incidents like this or something in life, any of your life targets, simply take initiative and do what you assume is true even once you don’t assume something’s in your favor. So that’s my recommendation not only for incidents like this, however something in life. And then possibly you may assist somebody’s life on the finish of it for all .
Peter Panageas (27:43):
Well mentioned, Krzysztof. Dr. Ho?
Dr. Reginald Ho (27:46):
I believe that one of the crucial necessary issues in our instances is to not lose contact with humanity, to lose contact with one another. In instances of COVID, instances of battle, there are lot of issues going round us that we can not management, however to by no means lose sight of who we’re, that we care about one another, and that we do our greatest to assist one another on this world.
Peter Panageas (28:08):
And Karen, earlier than I come over to you, I’d be remiss if I didn’t say this to each Dr. Ho and to Krzysztof. Dr. Ho first. We know what you and your colleagues do daily. We know the sacrifice you make. We know the non-public dedication you make, and we all know how exhausting and the way a lot of a sacrifice it’s to be a doctor at this time whether or not it’s at Jefferson or every other facility or any supplier across the globe. What you all do is completely wonderful, and we’re all eternally grateful to you and your colleagues for all you do. And Krzysztof, for your loved ones, and definitely for you coming into this area, figuring out the dedication and the sacrifice you’re making now and can proceed to make to serve all of us, we’re all eternally grateful to you as properly and to your loved ones.
Krzysztof Zembrzuski (28:51):
Thank you.
Peter Panageas (28:52):
You’re welcome. Karen, if there’s anybody or two belongings you need to share with our viewers, what would it not be?
Karen Silverio (28:58):
Well, I simply need to say thanks to Dr. Ho, Krzysztof, Pete, my entire whole household and buddies which have been on this journey with me. And what? I do have one factor to say. And that’s on the again of my window of my automotive, I’ve a bumper sticker that claims, “Just be kind.” And that’s a fantastic… That’s all you need to be in life, is simply be form as a result of it does come again to you. Look, from the underside of my coronary heart, I thank all of you for what you probably did for me and for my household as properly and buddies. Because if I wasn’t right here at this time, I don’t know the place they might be. But thanks.
Peter Panageas (29:42):
Karen, Krzysztof and Dr. Ho, thanks all a lot for becoming a member of us at this time. And to our listeners, as all the time, thanks and I hope you’ve loved our dialogue. Check out the present notes for extra info at insights.ibx.com. That’s insights.ibx.com.
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Thanks once more for becoming a member of us. And bear in mind, you by no means know whose life it can save you by merely getting educated in CPR. Thanks once more, everyone. Have a fantastic day.