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Katie: Hello and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is with considered one of my pricey private associates and it’s all about back-to-school well being routines and stress administration for the entire household. And I’m right here with Tina Anderson, who you may need heard from earlier than. I’ll hyperlink to her earlier episodes within the present notes, however she is, like I mentioned, a pricey private pal and somebody whose work I respect deeply.
Her journey into the well being world was fairly distinctive. She truly started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling instances by bringing each side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. But as soon as she had children, she realized that was actually excessive stress for her household. And so she was ready to make use of her authorized abilities to level her profession in a path because the in-house counsel for a household firm in prescription drugs. But what she noticed there made her change path once more, as a result of she was pissed off by lots of the abuses she noticed within the pharmaceutical business. And she turned towards the sector of pure well being and located her life’s work and goal.
And she started to analysis all she may about illness prevention and good well being upkeep and received deeply into intestine well being and the way related the intestine is for total well being. And so to share all of this info with the world, she and her husband created a complement firm largely primarily based round probiotics. And they now have an entire line of actually impactful dietary supplements that my household takes.
But on this episode, we go deep on the subject of preparing for again to high school. We discuss parenting, mindset, together with a improbable technique that her dad used that helped form her optimistic mindset. We discuss her life mantra that I realized from her. And then we go deep on key elements for good intestine well being, the largest myths about probiotics, what to know when searching for a probiotic, how 90% of serotonin is produced within the intestine, what psychobiotics are, and a lot extra. It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to Tina. So let’s be a part of her now. Tina, welcome again.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here with you.
Katie: It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to you. We are very a lot actual life associates and I additionally contemplate you want one of many folks I’m going to for recommendation. You’ve received children who at the moment are grown and who you’ve got superior relationships with. And I really like having you as a sounding board and a pal. And I’m glad that right this moment I get to ask you a few of those self same questions and we get to report it and let others share the dialog as nicely. So I’m very grateful that you just’re right here.
And for this episode, we wished to give attention to the theme of again to high school. I do know I’m gearing up for that with my children proper now. Quite a lot of different households in all probability are as nicely. And you’ve got a minimum of greater than 18 years of expertise of this together with your children and their numerous totally different ages. So I really feel like it is a matter that could possibly be an entire sequence of episodes each on the bodily well being facet, the psychological well being facet, the stress aid facet, the group, the getting again in a routine. There’s so many issues we may cowl. But to begin broad, I might love to listen to when you guys had any form of traditions, routines or something in your loved ones across the again to high school time.
Tina: Yeah, you recognize, I feel what I simply have such fond recollections of is simply the entire going again to high school procuring. You know, they beloved getting their college provides after they have been little and, you recognize, we’d all the time exit for ice cream afterwards and simply sort of make it sort of enjoyable, slightly custom. And so, after which we might do, you recognize, the opposite enjoyable half was like discovering on the market’s a instructor, you recognize, after they return to high school they usually discover out their instructor and it could, it could, we’d all go collectively and it could be this unveiling. And it was simply, it was enjoyable. There was stress concerned in it as a result of we’re like, oh, what in the event that they don’t get a pal that they need of their class and all that. But it was, it was all the time, we all the time tried to make it actually enjoyable.
Katie: I really like that. I feel my expertise is slightly totally different with homeschooling, though we do nonetheless the varsity procuring half. But for us, it’s like gearing up for the sports activities they usually nonetheless have very energetic social lives, however normally by way of their actions versus by way of college. But one factor I do know that could be a concern for lots of households is, and particularly with youthful children, that again to high school section and reintroducing with a much bigger group of individuals tends to even be typically slightly little bit of an immune system problem. Plus we’ve all through, as we undergo the autumn, the climate cools down, we’re getting much less shiny mild and daylight, extra indoors, extra all these items that may form of construct as much as sort of take successful on our immune system.
And so one factor I take into consideration so much this time of 12 months is we’re transferring into that’s what are a number of the issues we will proactively do to maintain our our bodies, our immune methods and our bodily well being optimum, even whereas we’re placing much more inputs into it? So do you’ve got any methods for that, for holding our immune system sturdy, for holding from getting sick as a lot as potential as we return into the varsity, the varsity sort of routine?
Tina: Well, I feel you hit the nail on the top with not being exterior as a lot and never seeing the brightness and the sunshine. I feel we’ve to be extra prescriptive about being exterior within the solar and getting a good quantity of sunshine throughout the day, even within the winter months and the autumn months, such as you talked about. I feel we’re, and these children are simply sitting down all day. In the summer time, they’re operating round, enjoying, transferring their our bodies far more than they’re throughout the college 12 months. And I feel simply attempting to get them to be transferring extra. And I feel as dad and mom, we simply, I imply, the errors I made, I feel was with my oldest, particularly, I might be like, oh, we received to get good grades and we have to give attention to this.
And, you recognize, now, my God, now I see a lot extra clearly and understand that there have been so many, there have been so many different necessary issues to be specializing in, like getting the daylight and getting, and never being so confused, placing a lot strain on our youngsters with grades and, and the way you, you recognize, what you probably did on this report and simply focusing extra on well being and wellness. And I feel I did that extra with my youngest. I used to be way more in step with attempting to get him exterior extra and being out in nature. So I feel that may be one space to begin together with your immune system, simply attempting to get some extra exterior sunshine and be extra energetic as a result of we simply grow to be so sedentary after we have been again to high school.
Katie: That’s so true. And you’re undoubtedly considered one of my inspirations on this as a result of I’ve gotten to journey with you just a few instances and seen your routine. And you’re so good about getting morning daylight, which I do know I’ve talked about on right here so many instances and the way necessary that’s for our circadian well being. And additionally you might be like such an inspiration in going for walks exterior. I do know we’ve had conversations the place we went for a stroll, even in some sort of fascinating areas like downtown New Orleans at totally different instances.
But I really feel like that is possibly considered one of many causes that you’re such a ball of vitality is that you just make time, intentional time for motion and time exterior, which it’s humorous that we want science to remind us of this, however the research simply hold sort of displaying up about why these issues are so necessary. And I really feel such as you’re such a superb instance of that.
Tina: Yeah, nicely, thanks. I beloved it. And I might stroll my children to high school. I used to be in a neighborhood that allowed us to try this. And I feel that when you can stroll your children to high school and you’ve got the flexibleness to do it, I used to be lucky. I labored from residence. I used to be in a position to stroll them to high school, however simply getting them began out, strolling is so necessary. I feel, after which simply, after which, you recognize, even in highschool, you recognize, a whole lot of children are driving going again to highschool and it’s, and I simply assume attempting to get them to only be energetic and transfer extra and simply empowering them with that. I feel that’s the opposite factor as dad and mom.
I’ve realized is that you could’t simply inform them one thing, you recognize, it’s essential to present them the analysis and it’s important to present, like have them watch a documentary a couple of matter that you just wish to educate them about simply because that’s how they actually begin to empower themselves and actually then they’re going to make the adjustments. They’re not going to make the change. They could make the adjustments quickly whenever you inform them, however when, you recognize, they’re empowered by the information and understanding of what’s happening within the analysis, they’re going to begin making higher adjustments.
Katie: I agree. And that’s a recurring theme, I feel, when anytime we discuss parenting on this Podcast can also be, to your level, the significance of modeling. And I feel it’s so true that that saying that mentioned in many alternative methods to many alternative folks, the concept that what we are saying is necessary they usually’ll typically hear, however they’re going to pay much more consideration to what we do, even when they faux they’re not or if they struggle to not, that’s what’s going to stay within the long-term.
And so I feel as mothers, particularly, such as you mentioned, that is what helps us to maintain that focus of us modeling the factor is definitely the factor that’s going to learn them probably the most. This might be why we see that statistic {that a} mother’s train and health stage truly has a dramatic impression on her children. It’s as a result of I consider that modeling and them seeing it, which by us doing it, it truly offers them permission to prioritize it as nicely. And so I really feel like that is considered one of my core form of parenting rules is possibly communicate much less and mannequin extra.
Tina: Yes, yeah, I really like that. I completely agree with you.
Katie: What about any ideas for, so my oldest are simply now within the teenage years, any ideas for holding good strains of communication and good relationship together with your children as they undergo the teenage years and into maturity? Because I do know from interacting with your loved ones, you’ve got an superior relationship with your whole children and a really shut, each fast and prolonged household. And I feel that’s so stunning. So any ideas for nurturing that?
Tina: Yeah, thanks. I imply, it’s what I’m most happy with in my life is my household that we constructed and the connection that I’ve with my children. And you recognize, it’s so humorous, so many individuals have requested me this. And I feel one of many issues I keep in mind when my children have been in highschool and you recognize, possibly they weren’t partaking within the actions that different folks have been so far as, you recognize, possibly the behaviors they weren’t presupposed to be doing. My children have been like, oh, I don’t wish to try this.
And, and folks would say like, how did you’ve got your children not try this at that age? And I’m like, I don’t, I don’t actually know aside from I simply made residence a really protected place. Not, not simply protected. We all wish to make our residence protected, however extra like snug that it’s okay that it’s Friday night time and also you’re a sophomore in highschool and also you don’t have plans. Like that’s okay. Just hang around with us and be at residence with us.
And I by no means, like I might by no means be like, oh, what are your pals doing? You know, why aren’t you going out? And nicely, can’t you discover any plans? Or I might all the time simply make it like, oh, what do you, what are we going to do Friday night time? What would you like for dinner with, you recognize, dad and I? And so I might, it was extra about, you recognize, making it regular that they have been residence with us and never like it’s important to be observe the social norms of like doing issues.
They did loads of social actions in highschool, however you recognize, all of them undergo phases the place associates possibly begin to change and teams begin to change. And I simply assume it’s necessary that we make it regular that hang around with us. And for us, I imply, that’s simply the best way we love hanging out with one another. And I feel that was actually necessary. And not being so strict. I feel the much less strict we’re, and I imply, children want boundaries. I’m an enormous proponent of that. I feel children, particularly in youngsters, undoubtedly want boundaries, however simply, you recognize, not being so judgmental about possibly they made a mistake they usually made a selection that they shouldn’t have made, however not judging them on a regular basis and making them really feel unhealthy about issues. I feel that has actually helped us be very open about issues.
Katie: That’s such an ideal level, particularly in these situations the place they make a mistake as a result of they’re in all probability going to study sufficient from that lesson from having made the error and possibly be more durable on themselves than we could possibly be. And so I really feel like if we will allow them to hold the possession of that, not take it away from them by judging them externally and never having to have them justify it and defend, which I feel then places extra vitality into the motion itself. I really like that method.
And I feel additionally you touched on one thing precious, which is it doesn’t matter what age they’re, we will’t, I neglect who mentioned this, however we will’t make them and we will’t repair them. Like all these issues have to come back from within them. And so if we will view it as how can we assist them in these classes and be the protected place they’ll study these classes with out judgment, I feel that actually helps that relationship. And I additionally love, it looks as if you do that so nicely in your house, of being the place the place not simply your children, however anyone can go and it’s a spot of unconditional love. And that was what I all the time actually wished to purpose for. And it appears to be enjoying out with my youngsters is I wished to be the place the place they all the time felt snug having their associates, the place all people was all the time welcome. I’ll feed anyone’s child who’s in my home and hopefully they all the time really feel that there’s unconditional love there. I feel that’s like an intangible that we will’t put a worth on, however one which like hopefully actually helps that relationship for our entire lives with our youngsters.
Tina: Yeah, and I imply, you’re a full mannequin of that. I imply, I keep in mind being over and having all these children round and simply everybody having a lot enjoyable and being energetic. And it’s actually necessary to have your private home be that manner for everybody. I additionally assume like to the touch upon grades, I feel that’s one of many largest classes as a guardian I realized. I imply, I used to be so totally different parenting my oldest than my youngest. And I feel we’ve to only give attention to studying. I’m certain you discuss this on a regular basis, Katie, I do know you do, but it surely’s like, you recognize, the grade will not be, I simply really feel prefer it’s virtually irrelevant.
You know, I imply, what I give attention to, particularly my youngest is in faculty now, I’m like, simply give attention to studying. I simply need you to study. The grade, your GPA means nothing to me. It means it ought to imply nothing to you. It’s like, and you recognize, typically whenever you’re studying and also you’re actually specializing in studying, no matter it’s, the grades fall into place. But I feel we simply get so caught up, particularly in highschool with, you recognize, learning for, attempting to get into faculties and all the social patterns that we’re presupposed to observe. I simply would warning all people to only have your give attention to studying. Try to get your baby to like to find out about no matter matter it’s and in no matter method it’s. It doesn’t should be within the classroom. It could possibly be Ted Talks, it could possibly be no matter it’s.
Katie: Absolutely. That’s a talent that may serve you your entire life and that hopefully all of us as adults are nonetheless doing on daily basis in some type. But you’re proper. I feel I didn’t study that lesson till maturity. I very a lot was so fearful about grades in highschool and I feel I hooked up elements of my id to how nicely I did in class. And it was an ideal factor to love un-pattern and like go off later in life. But it’s one thing I’ve been conscious of with my children of attempting to by no means assist or not like sort of facilitate a mindset the place they really feel like their price is hooked up to their efficiency in any space, whether or not it’s sports activities, whether or not it’s college, however to give attention to the core rules of curiosity and studying and connecting the dots and having enjoyable and overcoming challenges as a result of these are the talents which are going to truly translate into grownup life and no matter they find yourself selecting, which could not be one thing within the educational discipline, however these are the extra like tender abilities which are going to serve them in any side of life.
And I feel that’s an ideal springboard additionally into the mindset dialog, which is one other space the place you might be undoubtedly a supply of inspiration for me. And I do know folks have heard me say down right here, the road I received from you, which is that all the pieces will work out completely for me. And you might be such a supply of positivity and also you convey that vitality to any group that you’re in. And so I might love to listen to, I do know we’ve talked about this slightly bit in our different podcasts, however what have been a few of your large form of sources of inspiration or studying in mindset and in crafting that mindset?
Tina: Yeah, nicely, thanks, Katie. That’s fairly a praise coming from you. So, yeah, mindset is a large a part of my life. My father truly used to wake me up within the morning and inform me I’m getting higher and higher on daily basis in each manner. And it was, it was, and I assumed, you recognize, God, that’s so bizarre that my dad does this on a regular basis. And little did I do know what it did for me for my, the remainder of my life. And he simply taught me about how I, you recognize, you create your future, you create your life and it’s the phrases that you just use. You needs to be very cautious with the phrases that you just use.
That, you recognize, I talked to him and I’d say one thing like, oh my God, I’m loopy. I can’t consider I did that. And he’d say, cancel, cancel. Like you don’t say that. You know, don’t ever name your self loopy. Like don’t say that even when it’s simply in a joking manner. Just taught me the facility of phrases and the vitality that you just convey to any state of affairs. He used to again within the day, my God, you recognize, I imply, it was a very long time in the past. He wished to have books on tape earlier than books on tape have been a factor. So he would have me dictate Wayne Dyer’s e book right into a tape recorder. And I might examine or learn Wayne Dyer. And after all I used to be not paying consideration as a result of I used to be like, I don’t care about this, however I feel subconsciously that was all ingrained in me.
And so then Wayne Dyer turned an enormous instructor to me and is the inspiration of our firm. It’s the inspiration of so many issues in my life and the choices I’ve made in I do really feel that, you recognize, we actually, we have to do our life’s work. We must, we may create our future by the, the, the best way we reside our life. I feel forgiveness is a large side of it. That’s one of many cool issues that Wayne Dyer talks about so much. And I’ve coached different family and friends members on forgiveness that I feel they’ve had life altering outcomes about. I’m not a coach or something like that. I simply, it’s only a private ardour of mine.
And I really like, yeah, I simply assume our phrases are actually necessary and our vitality that we convey to any state of affairs is de facto necessary. And, and as you recognize, my well-known mantra that I all the time say is all the pieces works out completely for me. And I feel what’s necessary about that, folks assume that’s such a daring assertion to say, however all the pieces works out completely for me simply implies that it’s understanding completely for me on this state of affairs. And it’s not the best way I essentially wished it to work out, however I do know that it’s understanding completely for me. And I’ve to belief that I’ve to belief that, you recognize, the universe is offering for me or God is offering for me.
Katie: Yeah, I’ve that assertion on my wall truly in my bed room now too. And it’s actually truly helped me undertake a few of that mindset as nicely. And to your level, it’s not that all the pieces works out how I would like it to work out, however a whole lot of us can in all probability look in hindsight at even issues we thought have been very troublesome throughout no matter level we have been going by way of them and that we might haven’t essentially chosen. But then years later, see how that actually shifted the course of our life or supplied a lesson that was actually vital for one thing in a while and see that it actually did work out completely, simply not how we thought completely was going to look.
And now trying again, I may even take a look at the toughest moments of my life and have like deep overwhelming gratitude for them. Even although I wouldn’t have chosen them, I can see now I wouldn’t have gotten to go on a few of these journeys I’ve been on had I not had these experiences. And in order that’s one thing I hold high of thoughts with my children too, is to hopefully assist them have the body of reference to be current in no matter view it as taking place completely, even when it’s not nice or satisfying on a regular basis, and to search for the lesson or to search for the wonder in it, even when it’s one thing that possibly is troublesome or onerous.
I additionally love that you just introduced up forgiveness. I learn the quote years in the past that forgiveness is setting the prisoner free and realizing that the prisoner was your self. And that’s actually all the time stayed with me as a result of I feel typically we predict, oh, I can forgive them in the event that they do that, or if solely they’d apologize, if solely they’d make it proper. And I feel these are two separate issues. Forgiveness is an inner course of that we get to have full freedom over after we select. Making amends is an entire separate factor and that does contain the opposite particular person. But I feel if we will separate the forgiveness piece and understand that we all the time have the power to forgive, it doesn’t matter what the opposite particular person does or doesn’t do, there’s a lot freedom in that. And so it sounds such as you’ve helped folks attain that time so much, which is gorgeous.
Tina: Yeah, it’s wonderful. What occurs is that it opens up their lives. You know, I’ve one explicit pal who had a problem together with his father and hastily he began forgiving his father and all of those different issues. His profession began taking off. Like his relationships have been even higher than they have been earlier than. So I imply, it’s wonderful what occurs whenever you forgive and it’s so onerous. And it’s not like I’m saying, oh, forgive at some point, you forgive. It’s a course of. But when you simply see that it opens up a lot in your personal life and as unhealthy as somebody has handled you, as horrible as one thing that somebody has achieved to you, when you may get to some extent of forgiveness, you’ll actually begin seeing nice issues occur in your life.
Katie: Yeah, and folks have in all probability heard me discuss this earlier than as nicely, however for years I used to be doing all of the bodily well being stuff that I knew easy methods to do and dealing with all of the medical doctors and had spreadsheets for all the pieces, attempting to repair all my bodily well being issues. And it wasn’t till I additionally addressed that interior emotional facet and altered my mindset that each one the bodily stuff began working. And it actually highlighted for me how not solely are the thoughts and physique related and you’ll’t view both one in isolation, but additionally how highly effective the interior work is for even shifting our bodily well being.
And I feel we possibly can all consider examples of somebody who simply continues to have well being issues possibly, however they’ve a mindset that’s form of like manifesting of their bodily well being or folks such as you who’ve this all the pieces works out completely for me mindset and who like appear to be thriving and infinite vitality. And I feel that not all the time is {that a} trigger and impact relationship, actually by any means, however that these are actually precious elements to recollect it’s each/and, not both or in the case of these items.
Tina: Well, completely. And I, you recognize, I’m clearly interviewed on fairly just a few podcasts about intestine well being, and I’m all the time speaking about the truth that we have to meditate, we have to do deep respiration or acupuncture, therapeutic massage, no matter it’s that calms you down. We should be doing these items to be caring for our intestine well being. And then the reverse is true. You know, it’s essential to be caring for your intestine well being to ship alerts again to the mind. And, you recognize, it’s like we’ve to do not forget that what’s happening mentally is affecting us bodily and vice versa. What’s happening bodily will probably be affecting us mentally. But they each precisely, they’re each working collectively.
Katie: And you additionally talked concerning the phrases that we are saying being so necessary. And I really like this level as nicely. I’ve tried to concentrate to so much, particularly any phrases that come after the phrases I’m, as a result of I really feel like that’s actually highly effective for what we’re telling our brains and our our bodies. But I’ve realized slowly and this was a course of as nicely. But the interior discuss particularly that I had in direction of myself had a direct impression on my mindset and on my bodily well being as nicely. And you talked about one saying that your dad would use with you. I’m curious in case you have every other ideas for form of nurturing a optimistic mindset towards oneself, as a result of it looks as if for many individuals that’s truly probably the most troublesome to beat. Like we will be variety and the way we communicate to our youngsters and our companions and our associates, however typically studying to talk kindly to ourselves will be the largest impediment.
Tina: Isn’t that the reality? I imply, and I work at this on daily basis and I feel it’s nonetheless onerous for me, you recognize, I feel one of many issues that has helped me is simply doing day by day morning affirmations. So I’ve my affirmations and it simply units the day trip to begin out on a superb word and saying phrases which are affirming the best way that you just wish to reside your day and your life.
So I feel optimistic affirmations and the opposite factor is like I’ll discover myself beating myself up as a result of I mentioned one thing like, oh, you recognize, God, these pants are tight on me. And then I’m like, why am I consuming like a pig? Or, you recognize, I say one thing like, I’m like, oh my God, Tina, you recognize higher than to speak like that to your self. And and I’m like, OK, now I can’t beat myself up about it both. So I feel like acknowledge that you just do. We all try this. We say issues that we shouldn’t be saying. But I and that’s what’s helped me is saying, would I say that to my daughter? You know, would I say that to my mother? Would I say that to a pal? And no, I imply, if I’m not going to say it to them, like, by how can I say it to myself? And we’ve to remind ourselves of that.
But I feel saying the morning affirmations is so highly effective to begin your day trip. Just consider one thing like I’m excellent well being or I’m I’m wholesome. I really feel good. I look good. Whatever it’s that you just’re engaged on and the way you wish to set your intentions for the day. I’ve a number of. I modify them up. I’ve one which’s like enterprise associated, one which’s private associated, one which’s well being associated. So no matter it’s, I attempt to use these mantras, some that I’ve mentioned for in all probability 10 years. So I feel it’s simply necessary to phrases are highly effective. And I do consider our unconscious thoughts absorbs these phrases. And so be very prescriptive concerning the phrases that you just say to your self.
Katie: I really like that recommendation. And I really like that we received to get into the mindset facet first, as a result of I actually do consider, like we’ve talked about, that it is a actually enormous key, even in the case of bodily well being, and that usually it’s missed or typically it feels insurmountable. And I feel any, even small child steps make an enormous distinction in that space. And so I really like that we received to the touch on that.
But I do know that you just even have a ton of experience within the bodily well being facet and particularly in intestine well being. And I feel that is additionally essential at the moment of 12 months specifically, not simply because typically when folks return to high school, their meals can change slightly bit as a result of a whole lot of instances you’re consuming at college now or packing lunches, but additionally as a result of like we talked about, mild’s altering, your immune system is altering and its inputs at that time, possibly sleep is altering since you’ve received children have extra homework they usually’re up later. There’s a lot happening there.
And it looks as if we’ve heard sufficient a lot from all these research about intestine well being being completely linked to all points of well being, that something we will try this helps our intestine well being truly has optimistic ripple results into all areas of well being, from sleep to emphasize to after all, digestion to pores and skin and on and on and on. So I do know that this is sort of a life’s work and a ardour for you and that you’ve got put in a whole lot of hours into determining one of the best options for intestine well being.
But I might love so that you can begin broad and stroll us by way of what are a number of the core rules of fine intestine well being, whether or not it’s issues which are higher to keep away from, issues which are nice to eat, whether or not it’s stress elements, what are the large needle movers in the case of intestine well being?
Tina: Well, to begin with, I’m so glad that you just talked about that the truth that intestine well being has to do with just about each side of our total well being. And after all, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So we’re attempting so onerous to love ramp up our youngsters and ourselves, our immune system as we head into fall and winter. And we’ve to recollect, we’ve received to give attention to our intestine well being as a result of it’s actually dictating each side, just about each side of our total well being and primarily our immune system. So you might be completely proper to say that.
So a number of the issues I feel to keep away from, you recognize, sadly, the world we reside in is so detrimental to our intestine micro organism. You know, our intestine is comprised of all these useful microorganisms, primarily micro organism. And we all know that we live on this world that’s so offensive to our intestine well being. So one of many largest issues is antibiotics. So we all know now to keep away from antibiotics and as a lot as potential, however they’re present in animal merchandise, they’re present in our meals provide. So we’ve to attempt to be very conscious of the meals that we’re consuming that would not have antibiotics in them.
Also with Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and it’s sprayed throughout our produce. And that’s so detrimental to our intestine well being. Quite a lot of family and private care merchandise are very detrimental. Quite a lot of shampoos, toothpaste, which is why I might clearly suggest all people take, you recognize, use Wellnesse as a result of I imply, to begin with, it’s so good for our hair anyway. I really like the best way it makes my hair really feel. My dad now loves it. It’s so humorous. So I undoubtedly assume we’ve to be conscious of our private care merchandise, too, as a result of they’re simply loaded with all of those toxins.
So there’s chemical substances and toxins throughout our, you recognize, the world that we’re dwelling in. And so we actually should be specializing in caring for our intestine well being. Unfortunately, the soil that we’re consuming off of doesn’t have a whole lot of the microbes that we actually have been used to getting our ancestors used to get. So we, you recognize, it’s good to eat fermented meals. Definitely would suggest fermented meals, simply not as a alternative for a top quality probiotic. That’s the place I feel the large mistake is made, is folks assume fermented meals is a alternative for a probiotic. It has tons of vitamins. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being, but it surely’s not a alternative for a probiotic. It doesn’t as a result of the large… you recognize, side of probiotics, after all, is survivability. And the spore-based probiotic strains that we work with truly, we all know survive and get to the intestines alive.
So I might actually give attention to avoiding, like antibiotics, avoiding Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and give attention to consuming natural meals, actually consuming fermented meals, after which taking a high-quality probiotic can be, you recognize, actually supportive of your intestine well being, and doing issues like meditation, strolling in nature, being exterior, getting within the daylight. All these issues are actually necessary for our intestine well being.
Katie: And we did an entire episode about this, so I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. People can go actually deep. But additionally I really feel like there’s a whole lot of myths surrounding probiotics. So I really like that you just touched on that fermented meals and probiotics, each necessary however separate, they don’t exchange one another. We want the fiber and the enzymes and all the pieces that comes with fermented meals. And additionally there’s issues particular to probiotics that aren’t essentially simply going to be in fermented meals. But I really feel like there’s many extra myths past that. And lots of them are nonetheless quite common, like issues round refrigerated probiotics or what strains are finest and in the event that they survive within the intestine or not.
And so I might love so that you can break down a few of these myths as nicely and discuss concerning the distinction between spore primarily based probiotics and different probiotics. Because this was new info to me after I first met you.
Tina: Yeah, so the largest fantasy is the refrigeration fantasy. You know, so many, even medical doctors will say, oh, with a purpose to be a superb probiotic, it must be refrigerated. And the rationale why they mentioned that was as a result of, you recognize, you want a reside microorganism with a purpose to even be outlined as a probiotic. So a probiotics definition is a reside microorganism that confers a profit onto the host, which is the physique. So they’re considering, oh, nicely, with a purpose to be alive, it must be within the fridge. But when you concentrate on it, if a probiotic pressure must be alive, to, they’ll’t even stand up to the room temperature of the shop shelf. It must be within the fridge to remain alive. What on the planet will occur when it goes into your physique, which is 98.6, a lot hotter than the room temperature of the shop shelf? And the reply is that they’re gonna die.
And let’s say the temperature doesn’t even kill them. By the time they get to the abdomen, which may be very acidic and meant to be the gastric barrier, nearly all of strains in the marketplace are simply killed off by that temperature, the physique temperature, in addition to the acid within the abdomen. So this concept of a probiotic needing to be refrigerated with a purpose to be a superb probiotic might be one of many largest myths on the market. And it nonetheless must be debunked. The factor with the strains that we work with, they’re truly dormant. They’re not reside, like within the bottle, they’re not alive. They’re truly dormant. And then after they get to the intestines, in order that they make that journey out of your throat by way of the gastric system. And after they get into the intestines, that’s after they take their spore shell off. And that’s after they go into their reside vegetative cell, reside vegetative cell state. And that’s after they begin doing the magic within the microbiome.
So we’ve to recollect, a probiotic doesn’t should be alive within the fridge. A probiotic must be alive in your intestines. And that’s one of many largest myths. So we actually wanna make it possible for the probiotic is alive within the intestines.
And then I feel one of many different large myths out there’s that you just want a excessive depend, a excessive CFU depend. So CFU is Colony Forming Units. You’ll see that on the entrance of the bottle. It’ll say 50 billion CFUs, 250 billion CFUs. Now you see one thing with 500 billion CFUs. And there’s truly no research. There are not any research behind displaying extra is best. In truth, there’s research displaying now that like typically when you’ve got a number of totally different strains and plenty of totally different excessive variety of CFU truly may trigger some points and we may go into that later.
But the necessary factor to know is of these three billion or nonetheless many billion CFUs you’ve got at a product, what sort of change are they making within the intestine? And one of many first research we did was one thing referred to as a intestine mannequin examine. And we solely have three billion CFUs in our product. And we noticed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after solely two and a half weeks. And that is profound to see that kind of a change in such a brief period of time with simply three billion CFUs. And so, don’t get caught up within the 50 billion, 500 billion. That’s actually all advertising and marketing. And there’s actually no analysis behind that.
Katie: That’s so good to know. And the factor I beloved about this after I realized that was that it meant that now I may get probiotics to my children way more simply as a result of the refrigerated ones wanted to be taken in these very particular situations and also you wished the youngsters to swallow them and a whole lot of my youthful ones on the time couldn’t swallow capsules.
But after I realized concerning the spore-based ones and the way they might survive by way of the intestine and survive at warmth, I spotted I may combine these into meals, into smoothies, and it was a lot, a lot simpler to get them for my children than in the event that they needed to swallow a tablet solely. And so I really like that.
And I feel you guys have made this even simpler now as a result of the gummies simply received to my home lately and my little ones are virtually addicted to those. But I might guess it’s the same idea as a result of they’re steady and may survive all the best way to the small gut. It’s nice to chew them. It’s nice for them to be in a gummy they usually nonetheless get digested and assimilated the identical manner.
Tina: Yep, precisely. Exactly. It’s actually, that’s what’s so nice about these spores is that they’re so strong that we truly examined them. You had talked about we may open them and blend them with meals. You may truly bake with them. We examined them as much as 455 levels they usually stay fully steady. So you would bake them and no matter when you’re making some kind of muffin or brownie or one thing you would do or no matter. As I used to place in my son’s piping scorching oatmeal. And that’s, it’s actually, good for youths to have the ability to have that possibility.
I imply, a whole lot of adults don’t even prefer to swallow capsules. And then after all the gummy is simply, oh my God, that’s been actually thrilling as a result of they style so good. I imply, they style actually good. So that’s been actually necessary. And that’s necessary to us simply to have the compliance so far as folks taking it. And I feel after they style good, folks will take it extra typically. And in order that was extra necessary to us. We waited a protracted, very long time to supply a gummy as a result of we have been like, oh, you recognize, there’s some elements that aren’t as nice as we’d prefer to be. We prefer to be tremendous, tremendous clear, however we did the least quantity of something and we have been simply in a position to, you recognize, we would like compliance. It’s actually necessary for us to have compliance with taking the product. And that appears to be what the gummy is doing.
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Katie: And one other cool factor in the case of intestine well being that truly I feel ties in and circles again to, again to high school as nicely, is that research frequently are displaying that a lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our intestine, truly, and the intestine’s known as the second mind, and there’s so many connections there.
And I do know for lots of mothers particularly, it is a time of 12 months the place there’s extra stress, extra overwhelm, actually extra operating children round, extra scheduling. And it seems that we will truly actually use supporting our intestine to our benefit in the case of stress and psychological well being as nicely. And you guys have achieved some fairly fascinating work round particular strains which are tied in right here. So I might love so that you can clarify that as a result of I’ve been utilizing JustCalm so much currently, and it looks as if it actually does make a noticeable distinction on stress, however I might love so that you can clarify why.
Tina: Yeah, so simply the intestine alone, simply taking the spore-based probiotic alone, our signature product goes to assist with that as a result of we all know 90% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced in our intestine. GABA, which is the calming hormone, is produced in our intestine. So it’s so critically necessary to be specializing in our intestine well being after we’re speaking about psychological well being and our temper. We see this on a regular basis. So many individuals will possibly come to our product as a result of they’ve fuel or bloating or diarrhea, constipation, no matter it might be, after which they’ll say to us, oh my gosh, you recognize what, like I’m beginning to, like, I’m in a greater temper. I’ve extra vitality. I imply, would this have something to do with the probiotic? And I’m like, sure. You know, within the pharmaceutical business, it’s like, Side results embody suicidal ideas, dying, all these horrible issues. And it’s like right here uncomfortable side effects embody higher temper, extra vitality and higher weight administration we’ve even seen.
So we all know that the probiotic alone helps with simply the leakiness of the intestine. You may return, such as you mentioned, to a different episode and we may discuss leaky intestine. And we all know that when you’ve got a leaky intestine, that’s the irritation will begin going to lots of your totally different organs, considered one of which is your mind. And that’s a part of what causes the problem. But now we’ve been specializing in the analysis that you just talked about with this pressure referred to as Bifidobacterium Longum 1714. And this pressure is named a psychobiotic. And a psychobiotic is a probiotic pressure that’s serving to assist that gut-brain entry. So we all know we’ve this intestine mind entry. It’s the communication superhighway, I prefer to name it, as a result of the intestine is sending alerts to the mind and the mind is sending alerts to the intestine. And we’ve recognized this for a very long time.
We know after we’re enthusiastic about one thing, we get butterflies in our abdomen. We know after we’re nervous, we begin to go to the lavatory. These are all connections, these are all alerts going backwards and forwards from the intestine to the mind, the mind to the intestine.
And so we all know that this Bifidobacterium Longum 1714 Strain that’s present in our JustCalm product truly has been ready, it’s been proven in research to have folks have a greater notion of stress. So simply that capacity to deal with stress higher truly helps convey us extra into that theta waves like mindset, so we’re extra in that move state. We know that it’s truly serving to with cognitive perform and talent to focus higher. So it was some actually compelling research on the 1714 pressure.
Katie: That’s so fascinating. And after all, the opposite element that we all know that’s rather well studied right here is again to the immune system element and that when our intestine well being is compromised, our immune well being is by nature compromised as nicely. And it looks as if there’s a really sturdy hyperlink with irritation right here. And it looks as if an increasing number of research simply hold pointing towards the widespread hyperlink between most persistent illnesses truly being rooted in irritation in lots of instances. And so anytime we will profit our intestine well being and provides it the chance to cut back irritation within the physique and to course of that extra successfully, it looks as if it is also gonna have a very optimistic impression for the intestine.
But are there any particular methods, particularly as we transfer into sort of chilly and flu season that additionally might help assist immune well being particularly from a gut-focused perspective?
Tina: Yeah, so all the traditional issues that I talked about, after which we’ve a IgG product, which is an immunoglobulin G that has been actually, actually supportive. I imply, it’s actually supportive of the liner of your intestine, actually supportive of your immune system. We know that IgG is mainly an antibody that helps assault the, any viruses, toxins, issues like that, that are available in, that our physique naturally makes immunoglobulin G. And we all know that this IgG product that we’ve truly offers us 25% extra of the IgG in our intestine, which is so necessary as a result of 90% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So that’s one other technique that we like to make use of, particularly, you recognize, as you get into the autumn and winter months. I personally take all of it 12 months lengthy as a result of I feel it’s such a fricking phenomenal product. But I additionally, you recognize, I perceive that possibly folks may wish to simply take it, you recognize, within the fall and winter season, however I might extremely suggest that.
And then simply is from an immune perspective viewpoint is simply what we simply hold speaking about, like calming ourselves down as a result of it actually does make a distinction on how our intestine is functioning. We’ve received to calm ourselves down and we live on this world that’s so, so, everybody’s wired. It’s like virtually like, you recognize, you get an award for being extra wired and being busier. And I don’t need, we discuss modeling for our youngsters. We can’t mannequin that to our youngsters. We have gotten to, you recognize, present them that we’ve a lot success and happiness after we are simply not wired on a regular basis and we don’t should do all the pieces and be all the pieces to everybody. So, and I do know it’s onerous as a mother and a younger mother. And I simply, I want somebody had advised me that after I children have been little, simply to, you recognize, minimize, give your self grace, go sluggish, nothing, all the pieces doesn’t should be excellent and simply, you recognize, focus in your, your psychological well being too.
Katie: Yeah, completely. That’s so necessary. And that is purely anecdotal, so not medical recommendation. But with considered one of my daughters, I observed that the mixture of IgG and the probiotic appears to essentially assist. Actually, she had some recurring eczema when she was youthful, and that appeared to assist her physique actually clear that. And she doesn’t have it in any respect anymore. So I don’t know if there’s something particular to that within the research, however in her case, that appeared to be form of just like the magic factor that helped her eczema for anyone on the market who may need eczema with their children.
Tina: Yeah, nicely, it’s all concerning the leakiness of the intestine. With the probiotic alone, we all know we’ve a double-blind human medical trial on leaky intestine that’s been actually supportive of the intestine well being, that we all know that’s supporting the intestine, the barrier and the intestinal barrier. And now we all know that the IgG product is additional assist of that barrier. And simply getting rid, I imply, simply holding these toxins from seeping into our bloodstream is de facto necessary when individuals are coping with autoimmune points, after they’re coping with allergy symptoms. We must seal up that intestinal barrier. I can’t overstate that sufficient. And these two merchandise are simply such, such enormous instruments in your toolbox.
Katie: And I do know as somebody who’s a busy enterprise proprietor and a mother and all the pieces else that you’ve got in your plate, however you managed to remain, like I mentioned, so energetic and in good well being. So on a private stage, I might love any ideas from you which are sort of your personal private 80-20, whether or not it’s day by day habits, day by day dietary supplements, something that you just do as a part of a routine that you just really feel like contributes to that.
Tina: Yeah, so I get up each morning and I do my affirmations. I meditate after which I’m going for my morning stroll that I really like a lot. Even within the winter, I’m from Chicago and I nonetheless will go within the winter and I’ll, you recognize, stroll and simply get exterior in nature. And I even love the snow within the winter. So I’m an enormous complement taker. Obviously I take our Just Thrive Probiotic, our IgG, K2, our Prebiotic. I take all of our merchandise just about as a result of we don’t launch something that I don’t fully agree with or that’s not researched and primarily based in science. That’s been essential to us.
I additionally take Brocelite, a Cell Chlorophane Supplement, and I take Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Fish Oil. What else do I take? I take so much. I’m attempting to think about what else I’d, I simply, I take so many, however I’m simply, I’m enormous. I simply consider that our soil is so depleted. It doesn’t have the vitamins that we wish to be taking.
And then after all I’ve been specializing in intestine well being as a result of all the pieces else that you just’re attempting to soak up goes to be absorbed that a lot better when your intestine is wholesome. And I feel that’s what we’ve to recollect. We have a lot irritation happening in our intestine. And if it’s infected, it’s not absorbing vitamins. So it’s actually necessary that I feel folks begin with their intestine well being after which in any other case all these different dietary supplements and all these different wholesome meals that we’re consuming should not actually working.
I additionally am an enormous fan of intermittent fasting. I feel that folks ought to do it in the event that they assume it really works for them. But for me, it really works nice. I did it, I used to be motivated. I do know so many individuals have been motivated by it to drop a few pounds. I used to be motivated by it due to the analysis, the way it helped the analysis in intestine well being. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being. We know that sure micro organism truly proliferate in a starved state. So I’ll do intermittent fasting and I normally simply do like a 14 to 16 hour quick, however no matter works for you. But we do know that there’s analysis behind that.
Katie: I agree. And I do know it’s gotten, there’s considerably like controversy, particularly round ladies and fasting, however I all the time sort of put intermittent fasting or time-restricted consuming in a separate class as a result of that is traditionally one thing we’ve all the time achieved in some type and we’re actually not consuming whereas we’re sleeping. So all of us are literally performing some type of intermittent fasting anyway. It’s simply experimenting with the timeline of that. And to your level, I feel it is rather particular person and it’s all the time price being your personal main healthcare supplier and doing the experimentation to determine what’s going to give you the results you want.
For me, after a whole lot of experimentation, I spotted I really feel nice on a time-restricted schedule, particularly if I shift it earlier within the day. That actually tends to assist with circadian biology. So I attempt to get morning daylight as quickly as potential after waking up. And then I attempt to eat in a extra ahead shifted window within the day. So I’ll eat a very nutrient dense breakfast with protein comparatively quickly after waking up. And then I’ll attempt to cease consuming for certain by sundown, however typically by like 5 PM. And I’ve observed that my sleep improves after I shift that consuming window earlier.
And I solely say that as a result of I feel a whole lot of the preliminary intermittent fasting recommendation was from guys and their biology works slightly totally different. And a whole lot of them would skip breakfast and eat it like one or two within the afternoon after which eat until eight o’clock at night time, which actually works for some folks. But as a lady, I’ve observed for me that earlier window tends to work higher. So if somebody’s experimenting and never seeing good outcomes, that may be one suggestion I might have is shift the window earlier and see if that makes a distinction for you.
Tina: Yeah, I really like that. I don’t do it that manner. So I may need to offer {that a} strive. But I like to really feel, you’re completely proper although concerning the, you recognize, even when you simply cease consuming earlier and also you go to mattress and then you definitely simply, precisely 12 hours will not be that troublesome to do and also you’re, you recognize, simply begin consuming slightly bit earlier.
Katie: Absolutely. And that’s like, once more, again to that form of optimistic suggestions loop of stress and sleep and intestine well being and all of those elements. The great point is that if they’re not working for you, they’ll sort of grow to be a damaging suggestions loop. But when you even make optimistic child steps in any of these, it turns right into a optimistic suggestions loop they usually construct on one another. So then vitality will get higher. It’s simpler to decide to doing the issues you recognize you wish to do. You could make these habits extra constant and then you definitely proceed to construct that vitality and that motivation. So I really like that we’ve gotten to cowl so lots of the points of that optimistic suggestions loop right this moment.
And just a few questions I additionally like to ask towards the top of interviews. I do know I’ve requested you these earlier than, however I’m curious in case you have any, whether or not it’s new e book suggestions or current books which have had a optimistic impression on you and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Tina: Yeah, it’s humorous as a result of I all the time return to the Four Agreements as a result of I do know it’s been used so typically, however I learn it so typically and I simply gave it to a younger household pal who’s a younger man who’s going off to school and he mentioned, Mrs. Anderson, oh my God, I simply learn this e book and it actually made such a distinction and you recognize, I’m actually having fun with it. And I simply, I’ve to say it once more, as a result of I do assume it’s price rereading if folks haven’t learn it as a result of it actually has made a giant distinction in my life.
And I talked about Wayne Dyer and considered one of his books, he’s received so many nice books, however one of many ones that I can see clearly now could be actually, actually good. And that’s in all probability the place I realized probably the most about forgiveness. And I simply assume it’s actually nice for anybody that’s possibly scuffling with forgiveness. His, and simply his life story, it’s mainly like a life story and the way you would see a lot clearer, you recognize, years later and the way it makes such an impression in your life to love, forgive and watch out with the phrases that you just select. And yeah, these are some books that actually have been impactful to me and I reread them on a regular basis.
Katie: I’ll embody hyperlinks to these within the present notes for you guys listening on the go. All of that’s all the time at wellnessmama.fm together with hyperlinks to all the merchandise you guys carry. And I consider there’s additionally a particular low cost from you guys that will probably be within the present notes as nicely. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners right this moment that could possibly be associated to motherhood or intestine well being or mindset or any of the issues we’ve talked about or solely unrelated life recommendation.
Tina: Yeah, you recognize what I might say, simply because we have been speaking about children, I feel, simply spend time together with your children. I feel that’s in all probability one of many largest issues that has impacted my relationship and my husband’s relationship with our youngsters is simply the truth that we’re spending a whole lot of time, we’ve, we spent a whole lot of time with them and it’s these little, these moments of windshield time, which we, a pal of ours coined so eloquently, you recognize, simply you’re considering like, oh, when you’re driving them right here and there, you’re probably not spending, it’s not high quality time. Believe me, that’s typically probably the most high quality time you get is driving them backwards and forwards to actions. They begin to discuss extra. So simply get pleasure from these instances with them and be thankful for them as a result of they go by so quick. As you recognize, how unhappy I’ve been that my children have gotten older.
Katie: It does go by so quick. I feel my oldest one, turning 16, was a giant, like a sort of lightning bolt second for me of realizing simply how little time I might have left with him nonetheless at residence. And so, yeah, I really like that recommendation. I feel that’s an ideal place to wrap up for right this moment. And Tina, it’s all the time such a pleasure to speak to you. I’m so glad that we received to catch up and that we received to report it right this moment. Thank you a lot in your time.
Tina: Thank you, Katie. Always an exquisite pleasure to speak to you.
Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most respected sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.
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